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Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.08 09:56:00 -
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Little code interpretation question:
Should one be mining without a permit, does one get the opportunity to purchase it before being suicide ganked, or do the Code Folk gank everything not on their little list without the agent in question offering to purchase redemption through permit?
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Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.08 10:20:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:Handar Turiant wrote:Little code interpretation question:
Should one be mining without a permit, does one get the opportunity to purchase it before being suicide ganked, or do the Code Folk gank everything not on their little list without the agent in question offering to purchase redemption through permit?
it won't protect you from being afk, and if you are not afk, you can protect yourself.
This hypothetical situation assumes everyone is at their keyboard.
Do the gankers, ahem, agents of the code provide the chance to purchase a permit, or do they just gank everything not on the list? |
Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.08 12:24:00 -
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Cavalira wrote:Newsflash : If you purchase a permit, you'll make yourself look like a massive nerd to everyone in EVE. It's like a mark of shame. You're better off just being aligned to something.
I don't mine. Nor do I autopilot golems full of officer mods ;-)
But yeah, paying these guys is kind of stupid, just a hazard that comes with EVE, and it makes bots slightly less profitable, so ok by me. And their blog is kind of funny in a 'I Drink Your Milkshake' kind of way. |
Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.10 22:51:00 -
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Just a little FYI:
Apparently, noobs in Herons are now also deemed bot aspirant by the CODE gang as they try to figure out the scanning system in the solar system map, thereby obviously missing chat/local (if any is provided), and being deemed AFK.
Several poor noobs in help channel going WTF just happened.
Additionally, a bumper sticker (one assumes in the bio) proclaiming loyalty to the code is also mandatory and lacking one a gankable offense.
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Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.10 23:04:00 -
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Voyager Arran wrote:Blowing up newbies trying to learn the game is actually pretty poor form..
this |
Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.11 07:04:00 -
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TheDevek wrote:Why doesn't someone just find a list of people that purchased permits and start ganking them?
It would put an end to all this code and permit nonsense lol.
You could almost argue that buying a permit is in itself bot aspirant behaviour, as devoid of any higher reasoning capabilities, as flushing 10m down the drain. The Code within the Code, against the Code.
Anyone start up a corp to make it so?
CODECEPTION!! |
Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.11 07:54:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Voyager Arran wrote:Blowing up newbies trying to learn the game is actually pretty poor form. I totally agree. If you see this occur, please contact DJentropy or I in game with evidence. I do not condone the deliberate targeting of new players in any way, and as far as I know, CODE. alliance does not either. That said, code compliance is expected, and I hope the pilot involved can be directed to a safer area to complete their tutorial. If you see players suicide ganking within tutorial systems or soe epic arc systems (targeting new players) remember to file a petition.
How about you go look at minerbumping.com for your evidence......
For a diplomat you sure are poor at getting your own politicians in line. Your glorious leader of the revolution just posted a gleeful post about agents popping a 1 month old charachter in a venture, with the agent then following the person into Star Craft 2 to grief them there some more.
As stated above, if the permit would actually mean anything, you could really grow CODE into something. |
Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.15 12:11:00 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Ria Nieyli wrote:"We didn't want to gank those miners anyway"
Dude, come the **** on... The point of the Code is to get people to actually play Eve instead of letting their computer play it for them, those people were actually playing Eve. We had some fun banter with them in local flew around each other in the ice belt and all in all everyone had a more exciting and interesting night than they would have otherwise. We created content for the whole system that night. If you don't think that's a victory for the New Order then I think you've misunderstood something.
Anecdotal examples are argumentative fallacies. One of them does not make it a valid point on the Order as a whole.
As regards letting the computer play..... how about the Code go ganks people multiboxing Tengu or Bomber fleets. If that's not a prime example of letting the computer play, I don't know what is. If the holy aim of the group is to 'stop letting the computer play', then why is a reason for ganking in your Code Violation emails not having a bumpersticker denoting adherence to the Code?
CODE is of course free to gank whomever they want, but this holier than thou 'Crusade' as the saviour of Eve is starting look exceedingly like old fashioned trolling with a very disingenuous veneer of 'making eve better'.
I've recently been in contact with the CODE diplomats, asking where I can report actual bot miners (you across them in belts quite often) in groups of alts with the same name, but nothing ever comes back other than the CODE faq channel, which is a vacuum. It's suggested 'people are listening' there. If the RP and Content side of CODE where the least bit sincere, one would be wise to take such things seriously: that way one would actually feel useful scouting out botters for you guys and genuinely make eve better.
Be that as it may, mining is HELLA dull. When you're scanning, you have multiple screens up and are looking at data: this is not letting the computer play of course, so your statement does not ring true, again.
I realize this is of course just a fart in the wind. I'm slowly turning to the opinion that your content is just trolling, which is viable in New Eden.
So let me finish with: take yourselves more serious, and really get into the reporting and offing of true bot miners. Not just the people scanning or the people who are a month old. |
Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.15 12:16:00 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Handar Turiant wrote:How about you go look at minerbumping.com for your evidence......
For a diplomat you sure are poor at getting your own politicians in line. Your glorious leader of the revolution just posted a gleeful post about agents popping a 1 month old charachter in a venture, with the agent then following the person into Star Craft 2 to grief them there some more.
As stated above, if the permit would actually mean anything, you could really grow CODE into something. One month old character dies? OH NO! STOP THE PRESSES! They targeted that player because he was streaming. They didn't gank him in a starter system, and as you said, he had been playing the game for a month. Hardly an example of deliberately targeting new players.
I'm sorry? When did a schism take place within the hallowed gardens of the Code that denoted streaming as a violation of your sanctimonious bible of new HighSec? Does James315's HighSec extend to StarCraft 2?
These new orders from our most hallowed leader must be studied and observed!
It would be interesting, content-wise, to read a new testament on minerbumping.com as to how James315 has now incorporated these new commandments into the Eve Mormon faith. |
Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:25:00 -
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DJentropy Ovaert wrote:Handar Turiant wrote:
I've recently been in contact with the CODE diplomats, asking where I can report actual bot miners (you across them in belts quite often) in groups of alts with the same name, but nothing ever comes back other than the CODE faq channel, which is a vacuum. It's suggested 'people are listening' there. If the RP and Content side of CODE where the least bit sincere, one would be wise to take such things seriously: that way one would actually feel useful scouting out botters for you guys and genuinely make eve better.
The reason is simple - you are not providing intel of any value. I get reports of this nature about a dozen times a day, and they all follow the same format: "Soandso is in *system-name* afk mining! I think he is a bot!" - which carries about as much value as "I was in space and I saw some spaceships!". There is always someone multiboxing while AFK, botting, afk mining, trash talking the CODE, etc. You can't go more then 3 jumps without finding them. I'll tell you the same thing I tell anyone who sends reports of this nature - BE THE CHANGE you want to see in the universe. Strap on some guns, go enforce the CODE. If you can't do it alone, join the minerbumping channel and see if others will help you. If you are unwilling to get excited enough to do anything about it, how can you expect anyone else to?
Yeah, that's not gonna happen. The whole quasi religious holier than though thing, even though tongue in cheek and a good laugh to read, is a little too much for me. The shark was jumped with the atrocious soundcloud postings. I'll stick to poking nullbears. |
Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.25 08:58:00 -
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Revis Owen wrote:Handar Turiant wrote:DJentropy Ovaert wrote:BE THE CHANGE you want to see in the universe. Yeah, that's not gonna happen. The whole quasi religious holier than though thing, even though tongue in cheek and a good laugh to read, is a little too much for me. The shark was jumped with the atrocious soundcloud postings. I'll stick to poking nullbears. You don't have to do the "quasi religious" meta-stuff. It's not required. You can just get down to business and bump or gank the ones you're complaining about. If you're not willing to even *consider* being *some* part of the solution, your sincerity about your "problem" is seriously in doubt.
Just because I support the troops doesn't mean I have to pick up a gun..... this is what I would term a fundamentalist position, much like your statement on forced suspect for miners. You're not interested in teaching people anything, just looking to make ganking ships for your bandits easier. How bot aspirant of you. |
Handar Turiant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.25 13:39:00 -
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Petre en Thielles wrote:Tengu Grib wrote:Petre en Thielles wrote:Black Pedro wrote:Eyrun Mangeiri wrote:
Yes, but complying with the Code will never get you ganked in the first place even if you don't have a permit. You will check local and D-Scan, play like you would in low or nullsec and/or tank your ship, etc. So the permit does nothing.
And there's the rub - if you do this you are obeying the Code (well most of it anyway) and we win. The New Order always wins. When your entire play style is ganking newbies, how is that something to brag about? Yes, all Code ganks is newbies, we especially enjoy ganking newbie Jump Freighter pilots. I myself really enjoy killing newbie Skiff pilots. I really love it when they are all like "I've only been playing the game for 2 weeks, how is this a good way to welcome people to Eve?" Everyone should be welcomed to Eve with antimatter, that's how I was welcomed. And it only made me want to play the game more. So you honestly disagree with the fact that ganking AFKers and newbies is by far the easiest playstyle out there? It is about as carebear as it gets
Omg...... it's....... CARECEPTION! (or Bearception?) |
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